tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6343185046065014483.post1686427707302633861..comments2022-04-03T09:03:14.172-04:00Comments on BORING THINGS: Scotus on the generic view, Ord. 1.5.2.un. nn. 126-128Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16761276972563441815noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6343185046065014483.post-30324524021818932632007-08-27T05:01:00.000-04:002007-08-27T05:01:00.000-04:001. Scott, I like the way you're writing these days...1. Scott, I like the way you're writing these days. Nice and clear, nice and technical, and to the point. Awesome. <BR/><BR/>2. Your explanations are extremely helpful. This site should be a little resource site for students of medieval trinitarian theology in Henry and Scotus. <BR/><BR/>3. All of these things you say are right, but they aren't the cause of why E + PP are grouped as one countableAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16761276972563441815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6343185046065014483.post-73840263483357135902007-08-24T14:06:00.000-04:002007-08-24T14:06:00.000-04:00"I'd have to include the E separately under each P..."I'd have to include the E separately under each PP."<BR/><BR/>Remember that 'separately' here must be a technical meaning, b/c it is much easier to think of Plato's substance, and then Socrate's substance. This sort of consideration has to be re-worked, this 'separate' consideration. It seems the tools to do this have to do with the definition of a person, that a PP is a relation and not a thingScott Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14109057421298257236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6343185046065014483.post-74166480646322096752007-08-24T13:33:00.000-04:002007-08-24T13:33:00.000-04:00The question as to why E + 1 PP counts as a 'perso...The question as to why E + 1 PP counts as a 'person' is a good one. In the human case, a person acc. to Boethius is a single substance of a rational nature, and with Richard we add an 'incommunicable' feature. In God, we are driven to say there is a single substance, but is this communicable or incommunicable? The E is communicable b/c it is shared, but not communicable as with Plato and SocratesScott Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14109057421298257236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6343185046065014483.post-4763209357964356742007-08-24T12:29:00.000-04:002007-08-24T12:29:00.000-04:001. As for the fact that you have to consider both ...1. As for the fact that you have to consider both properties (E and PP) together to get three persons, yeah, that's the strategy. But I'm not sure it solves the problem. If the three PPs share the same E, why should I count three persons? There's just three PPs there and one E. To count three persons, I'd have to include the E <EM>separately</EM> under each PP. But why would I do that? After allAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16761276972563441815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6343185046065014483.post-73071132229604629092007-08-23T09:54:00.000-04:002007-08-23T09:54:00.000-04:00Funny, what you say about quidditative act(s) and ...Funny, what you say about quidditative act(s) and personal acts echoes what I said early about Henry's acct. of the divine essence considered simpliciter in the persons, and the personal/principiative order.<BR/><BR/>What will be interesting to see is how Scotus says the divine essence is not multiplied. I'd imagine (for Henry) it has something to do with features (intellect and will) of the Scott Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14109057421298257236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6343185046065014483.post-74134443383165779612007-08-23T09:49:00.000-04:002007-08-23T09:49:00.000-04:00Interestingly, Henry says that the conjunction of ...Interestingly, Henry says that the conjunction of a personal property and the divine essence counts as one divine person. So, a divine person, like a human person, minimally has two properties, an essence and a personal property. So, to say there are 'three' personal properties is true, but these are not three 'things', as you report, for Scotus as well, there is only one divine substance/essenceScott Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14109057421298257236noreply@blogger.com